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Topic: Ian Muffet
From: Katie Bryer Murray
Date: 2010-08-30

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Ian, you were one of the reasons I always enjoyed coming out to the Oldtimers games, I'll miss playing the odd kick-about with you and of course our conversations at the pub afterward. I feel lucky to have known you, thanks for your interest and support over the years! My best to Ian's family. - Kate (Bob's Daughter)

Topic: Ian Muffet
From: Katie Bryer Murray (Bob
Date: 2010-08-30

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Topic: Ian
From: Paul Tyrrell
Date: 2010-08-30

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After sharing comments with my current teamates (A Team) last weekend and being away on business all last week, I thought that I'd post a comment here as well. Our loss of Ian reminds us all that we need to enjoy the time we have with each other - family and friends, in spite of what curves life throws at us. Ian exeplified an attitude that we should all aspire to. What a legacy he left for the BOTSC!

Topic: Pictures of Memorial Service(s)
From: Leigh Muffett
Date: 2010-08-30

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As promised here is my contact details for the memorial service pictures to be sent to (and just general all around contact info for pick up games): Email: mmuffett@hotmail.com Thanks again everyone. Cheers, Leigh Muffett

Topic: Ian
From: Leigh Muffett
Date: 2010-08-29

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I just wanted to thank everyone for all their kind words and memories of my dad. This is truly a league of gentlemen. After speaking with the rest of the family we have decided to attend the minute of silence at Iroquois. After the minute of silence we will be going to Millcroft to watch his team play. Once again it was truly heartwarming reading all the comments posted on this forum about my Pops and I'm glad he was surrounded by a great group of lads. I'm now reminded of why I come out for pick up games in fall and winter.

Topic: Slide tackles.
From: Alistair Kinnear
Date: 2010-08-28

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After our game last sunday I again told Roger the ref that we have a special provision in the BOTSC that prohibits slide tackles of any sort during game play, as there were a number of slide tackles resulting in injury. He commented that he needs an official notification from the league as to this, as they are allowed under FIFA regulations...as do some of our members who continue to come in agressively and take advantage by sliding when we aren`t prepared. I will ask that those who have tackled in this fashion recently please desist from this point on as it exposes us to substantial risk from injury. There are those of us who also play in physically much more intense environments who resist the urge to go in hard when presented with a situation wherein a player shows too much of the ball on a sunday morning. If you want to try the game at that level come on out on a friday and take your chances......

Topic: Slide tackles.
From: Alistair Kinnear
Date: 2010-08-28

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Topic: Linesmen
From: Chris L
Date: 2010-08-28

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We need linesmen to run the two games at Millcroft on Sunday. If anyone can do the job or if you have qualified sons or daughters would you give me a call ASAP please. Chris Lynch (905) 332-9701

Topic: Ian's Funeral and reception
From: Bryan Clarke
Date: 2010-08-27

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Such grace and humility, as demonstrated by all of Ian's loved ones, was surely an inspiration to us all and served to underline the impact upon all who have been touched by his fun and energetic spirit.Many thanks to Suzanne and the whole family for including us in their hour of sorrow.

Topic: Ian Muffett
From: Robert Bryer
Date: 2010-08-27

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Thank you Suzanne and family for the lovely reception. It seems that Ian has taught all to LIVE our lives with happy spirit and enthusiasm. We are all truly missing him.

Topic: IAN MUFFET
From: ROD ANDERSON
Date: 2010-08-26

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I just found out the sad news tonight when I returned from holiday. I knew Ian for the last 3 years from the Sunday soccer but also for the last 7 years from Wed night indoor soccer at Lester B Pearson HS and he impressed me as a good person who played his soccer with intensity, not caring if it was a pickup game or the "world cup". I will miss his friendly smile and chats and offer my sincere condolences to his family.

Topic: Ian Muffett
From: Paul Toms
Date: 2010-08-26

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Ian, you had a fantastic zest for life, and were a great example to us all. We will miss you but always remember you, particularly your broad smile. Condolences to your family. Paul.

Topic: Ian Muffett
From: Ringo Takacs
Date: 2010-08-26

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After attending the visitation for Ian tonight in Milton, I have to say I am grateful and ever so appreciative to be apart of our BOTSC community. To see our membership gather and come together as a family unit earlier tonight, really put everything in perspective for me as a player and what this club is and "should" be all about. Between the handshakes and pats on the back amongst present and past members tonight, there truly is a brotherhood within this league which we should all be proud of. A brotherhood which I'm sure Ian knew all too well of, and simply kept it to himself and allowed each of us to figure it out in our own way........

Topic: Ian Muffett
From: Bill Hom
Date: 2010-08-25

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Ian, It was inspirational playing soccer with you. Your time and effort with the Club will never be forgotten! I too agree with Ivan K. perhaps a Bursary Fund commemorating Ian Muffett for getting involved on and off the field. All the best to the Muffett Family. Bill & Michele Hom and Family

Topic: Ian Muffet
From: Ivan Kocmarek
Date: 2010-08-25

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Ian's pure love for playing the game was infectious whether you came out on Sunday, Wednesday or Boxing Day, Ian was sure to be there. We will all greatly miss you. As an aside and for everybody's consideration, what would you think about our league putting together a Memorial trophy or plaque with the names of all the players that our league has lost since it's inception? Maybe we could inaugurate a new tournament or even change the name of the International Tournament to the BOTSC Memorial Tournament so that we would annually bring to mind all those members that are no longer with us. I'd be willing to donate to such a trophy or a plaque.

Topic: Ian Muffet
From: Dave Shaw
Date: 2010-08-25

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Ian was a prime example of what this club is about, and will be remembered by all his soccer friends. Didn't care who he played with, against, or if he ended on the winning team. It's playing that matters, and something that he loved and enjoyed to the very end. A pleasure to have known you Ian.

Topic: Ian Muffet
From: John Cockburn
Date: 2010-08-25

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Ian, you were a fine example of what we all want this club to be. You will be missed by all of us. Rest in Peace.

Topic: ian Muffet
From: Anthony Clayton
Date: 2010-08-24

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As many of you know I have spent a fair bit of time on the touchline enjoying and observing the BOTSC while keeping an eye on the referee. Ian was always ready to share a laugh and a pleasure to be around. If there were 3 sets of games played on Sundays, ian would have tried to participate in all 3 !!! He will be sadly missed.

Topic: In memory of Ian
From: Peter Barrett
Date: 2010-08-24

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Janet and I are deeply saddened by the loss of Ian. His infectious personality left an impression on everyone who had the pleasure the meet him and his presence will be missed by many. I really got to know Ian in the early 90’s when we used to travel home from work on the GO train; we shared many a good laugh at a time when we were both going through “Rough” patches in our lives. Myself, and many others, have fond memories spent on and off the field with Ian, dominoes at the Plough after Friday indoor soccer just won’t be the same anymore. Ian’s son, Leigh, has been playing pick up/Rowley Bowl with us for many years and it would be a pity to lose contact with him, would it be possible for the executive to “Bend“ the rules a little and offer Leigh a club membership in honour of his Dad? Our sincere condolences go to Suzanne and family.

Topic: Ian Muffet
From: Doug Laird
Date: 2010-08-24

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Sunday was a very sad day for all of us. Ian will be missed dearly. Nothing was ever a bother - he was always willing to sub or help with anything. He was a great asset to the Club and what the Club stands for. I will miss Ian very much - rest in peace big guy. My condolences to the family.

Topic: Ian Muffett
From: Alistair Kinnear
Date: 2010-08-24

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No words can describe the feeling reading of the loss of our friend Ian this sunday night upon returning from our holidays. It wasn`t more than a week ago that my boys and I stood in Ian`s garage and as he showed us his old morgan sports car that he`d bought to restore, ready for his daughter`s wedding in the spring. I can still hear his voice, asking me whether I thought he was offside occasionally...it was a joke between he and I...strikers are never offside, refs just get it wrong. My next goal`s for you brother.

Topic: Ian Muffet
From: Jeff Street
Date: 2010-08-24

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It was an honour to know you, you will sadly be missed, you were a true sportsman and a gentleman.

Topic: Ian Muffett
From: Joe Hevesy
Date: 2010-08-24

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At the heart of every gentle man, there beats a gentleman. It was a pleasure to know Ian on the pitch, and you did get to know him quite well because he was always there, ready to score or defend, wherever he was needed, always with a smile and a good word.

Topic: Ian Muffett
From: Kevin Clayton
Date: 2010-08-24

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I would like to extend my deepest condolences to Ian’s family. Ian always played the game in a sporting and gentlemanly manner and never gave me a moment of trouble. We’ll all miss you mate! Kevin Clayton

Topic: Ian Muffett
From: Jim Coates
Date: 2010-08-23

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Just after the game began Ian sugested the current orange BOTSC team would hold their own against my Blackpool ,I said he would look good in tangerine and out came that Ian smile but before I got a reply he was off chasing the ball with me behind as always .Ian thank you for the pleasure of your company and the joy of your friendshlp Jim

Topic: Ian Muffett
From: Graham Youngman
Date: 2010-08-23

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Dear Ian, I was present shortly after you collapsed like many others gathered around I felt helpless wishing I could do more, we where the game after you and I was hoping it would be called...It was Bobby Gibson who said to me, Ian would be pissed if you did not play, we played we won and I would like to dedicate that win to you Ian, and your family. You where one of the first people to welcome me into this fine league of our's and you where one of the first to scold me down the right wing!!!.I willmiss you dearly Ian, I am thankfull you passed doing something you not only loved but where still a force to be dealt with!!, God Bless Ian, it was a pleasure, rest in peace, a big fan Graham Youngman.

Topic: Ian Muffett
From: Holly McBean/Travelonly
Date: 2010-08-23

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Ian will be very missed by all of us at Travelonly he touched. He was always first at the door to assist us when we needed a hand to bring in the AV equipment or any brochures. He always greeted you with a smile and had many great stories to share and super travel ideas for his clients. He will be missed terribly by all who knew him. My condolences go out to his family.

Topic: ian
From: joe davies
Date: 2010-08-23

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just ass everyone else has said ian was a friend to all and will be missed dearly.my condolences go out to the whole family

Topic: Ian Muffett
From: John Spackman
Date: 2010-08-23

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An Honour to have called you a friend, Josie & I will miss you.

Topic: Ian
From: John Davies
Date: 2010-08-23

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Like everyone else Christine and I were shocked and upset to hear of the passing of one of our club's most likeable members. Ian could always be counted on to lend a hand when needed. He did so much for the club and its members and will be sorely missed by all who knew him. Rest in Peace my friend. Our condolences to his family

Topic: Ian
From: Chris Lynch
Date: 2010-08-23

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Ian was one of those rare individuals who made friends with everyone who had the pleasure to meet him. Never one to issue a negative word and always ready to help, regardless of the difficulty to himself. It has been an honor to know you Ian. R.I.P.

Topic: IAN
From: John Sullivan
Date: 2010-08-23

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Great friend, Great lad he will be missed by all for all the reasons all his friends have said.

Topic: Ian
From: Silvio
Date: 2010-08-23

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Just landed my family home from Blind River and as I logged in... my heart fell to my ankles as I read the most sad news......Ian always found a way to make me laugh , whether smooth or biting his witty sense of humour always evoked laughter in those around him. I will miss his runs down the wings, his goals, his continuous willingness to help and his ability to put smiles on faces.I miss you IAN!!!!! Silvio

Topic: Ian
From: Les Bell
Date: 2010-08-23

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I am still in disbelief that someone who, for me, was the embodiment of what this league stands for is gone...fair play, sportsmanship, effort, teamwork - he was always ready to help out, always in a great mood and quite happy to play two games on the trot on any given Sunday. What an incredible loss to everyone who knew him and to the BOTSC. I have submitted an idea for a memorial for Ian to some members of the executive committee as I was not sure if the public site was the right place to vaunt it so soon, but I do believe that Ian is one of those guys whose personality and actions merit remembrance. Deepest condolences to Ian's family...what a tragic loss to all.

Topic: Ian Muffett
From: Leon Herrell
Date: 2010-08-23

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Ian was a true competitor who always played within the spirit of the game. No matter what happened he would always chatter with you during the game. He will be sorely missed. Just a comment (not a criticism) on the Remarks Column on the home page. Thanks for posting the notice about Ian but it would have been better if the previous remark had been removed.

Topic: Ian Muffet
From: Gord Bradley
Date: 2010-08-23

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I was very saddened to hear of the passing of Ian. He was a great competitor who on the park never gave an inch and never expected you to give one. A great promoter and supporter of all club events. You will be sadly missed by this club Ian. My best wishes and prayers go out to Suzanne and family. Rest in Peace.

Topic: Ian Muffett
From: Nick Hopwood
Date: 2010-08-23

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I was stunned to hear of Ian’s passing today. He was indeed a ‘one in a million’ type who always saw the funny side of life. He did so much for the club and would always help out if we were short of players. His enthusiasm was infectious and I will miss him very much. My thoughts and prayers go out to all his family and friends at this sad time.

Topic: Ian Muffet
From: Andy
Date: 2010-08-22

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In short 3 years of my association with this club, I have come in contact with everyone with such spirit and sportsmanship. Ian was an exemplery one. My sincere condolences to his family.

Topic: Ian Muffett
From: Geoff & Helen Perks
Date: 2010-08-22

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This time last night Helen & I were enjoying a great evening with Ian, Suzanne, Rowly, Rita, Brian and Sheila Clarke. We all left Rowly's house together around 11pm. I can't believe what has happened a few hours later. Him and I were discussing our next fishing day, we were planning our daughter's wedding trip to Mexico. You will be missed dearly Ian.This is a very sad day.

Topic: Ian
From: Michael belton
Date: 2010-08-22

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I'll miss you pal

Topic: Ian Muffett
From: Steve Lyons
Date: 2010-08-22

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This is so sad. I have known Ian for years. After having such a rough time earlier on in his life he seemed to have found the happiness and contentment he truly deserved with Suzanne. He was such a nice man. He loved his football and it was obvious from his enthusiasm that he would always try to get a second game on sunday morning. If there is an upside to this it is the fact that he died doing what he really loved .

Topic: Ian Muffet
From: Trevor Laingchild
Date: 2010-08-22

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Over all the years we played together both on Sundays and indoor, it was an absolute pleasure and inspiration to play with you. You were always young at heart, counting all the goals you scored and especially the sprinting tussles we had. You promised to teach me fly fishing,it is with deep regret we never accomplished that. I am a saddened person today. You gave so much to BOTSC,for that I thank you. To all your family I send my sincere condolences,rest in peace my friend. The whole soccer club will miss you.

Topic: IAN MUFFET
From: R WARD
Date: 2010-08-22

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it was a pleasure to play with or agains't you I wish all your family the best,my heart goes out to you and your family .God bless you Ian. always in my heart always in my thoughts ALWAYS RON

Topic: Ian Muffett
From: Ringo Takacs
Date: 2010-08-22

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It was an absolute pleasure to know and play alongside of Ian in my 4 short years of being a proud member of the BOTSC. Needless to say, this is a "tremendous" loss to the league, and I would like to to take this time to say, "Thank you Ian for the great memories I won't soon forget!".........Cheers mate! :) Ringo

Topic: Ian
From: Martin Wilson
Date: 2010-08-22

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I only knew Ian for a couple of years but also looked forward to playing with and against him. I also looked forward to chatting with him after the game and talking about cars. Ian you were a great guy and a nice player, I will miss you! Martin

Topic: Ian Muffett's sudden passing
From: Bryan Clarke
Date: 2010-08-22

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I, as I am sure all Club members are, was shocked and dismayed to hear the sad news this morning. Ian was one of the most involved members of our Club, and aside from his spirited performances on the pitch, he worked hard to promote the social side of the Club's activities. His energy will be sorely missed by us all, and he will be leaving a huge hole in our organization.My wife and I spent a hilarious evening at Rowly's home with Ian and Susanne, Geoff and Helen Perks, only last evening.

Topic: Ian Muffett
From: Ron van Riel
Date: 2010-08-22

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I have only been in this league a few years and Ian Muffett treated me like a friend from day one. I have had the pleasure of being on the same team as Ian and the equal pleasure of facing him as he rushed in on me. Ian managed to score goals against me in pretty much every part of the net. I often joked with him that he was keeping a list of where he still needed to score on me! While where he scored was not consistent the good humour and spirit with which he competed was consistent, Ian was a true class act. I consider myself privileged for having had the chance to get to know him and I will miss not seeing him on the field. My thoughts and prayers are with Ians' family during this difficult time.

Topic: Signing up
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Date: 2010-08-22

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Go to contact list above, click on vp / registraar's name and send him an e-mail with your details

Topic: Signing up
From: Steve Van Dyk
Date: 2010-08-21

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Who do I contact to sign-up or get on a waiting list?

Topic: weekend scores
From: Doug Laird
Date: 2010-08-17

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Les, you forgot the Jambos ( Heart of Midlothian ) to you. You are a nut.

Topic: Weekend Scores
From: Les Bell
Date: 2010-08-17

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Doug, on the weekend Blackpool beat Wigan 4-0, Boro tied Leicester City 0-0 and Chelsea stuffed six past West Brom who diod not reply. In Scotland Forfar Athletic went top of Division Two by beating Peterhead 2-1 in front of a crowd of almost 200 and Rangers beat Killie 2-1. What other scores do you need? I have them all.

Topic: UNIFORMS
From: Julian
Date: 2010-08-17

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Ron , Ron , Ron , I am a proud teammate , however after the english display at this years world cup ,I can only dream of being dutch !!! But our colours...the slim guys look like popsicle sticks , the [shall we say ] not slim guys ....got kind of a pumpkin thing going on !! My boots are a sore spot with me at present . During warm -ups the safest place for you when I have the ball , is in the net !!!!

Topic: Uniforms
From: Ron van Riel
Date: 2010-08-17

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Best be careful about taking shots at the "A" Team uniforms, the Dutch Orange was represented proudly at the recent World Cup...right up until the last game that is! While Julian's boots have been the subject of some discussion I think Alistair is sporting the most luminescent boots on the pitch these days! Hard to knock him though they do seem to work...and he is a teammate!

Topic: uniforms
From: Julian
Date: 2010-08-17

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Yes Les , we do infact wear "costumes" instead of strips !!!!! We can't however land small aircraft as most of our "lights" are usually on only one side of the pitch or the other , and seldom spread out evenly !! I have been told it is not the colour of my shirt that is the problem , but the colour of my boots !!!!! I think you have run into the same problem over the years ?? As for retiring , I can't see you doing that for a few years yet , but on that day , the ref will be using sign language , as you won't have a hope in hell of hearing a whistle , but then again I am only 47 and never hear the whistle . Will you know which car is yours [ but a good chance to innocently up-grade , all at the blame of old age ] !!!! I heard a story once about a guy who had had a few and pulled over to help an accident victim , but once several cruisers arrived he jumped in his car , and got out of there , only to find a police cruiser parked in his garage the next morning . Yikes !!!!!!!!!!!

Topic: Uniforms
From: Les Bell
Date: 2010-08-17

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Julian, it is unfortunate you have been drafted on to two consecutive teams with luminescent costumes. I am always wary of that myself - being drafted on to a team with ordinary colours is definitely preferable as seen from the air your team (which is predominantly stationary) most likely looks like a landing strip for small aircraft. As for my shirts, I heard a rumour that when I finally give up the game the league will retire my regular number, 13, and there will be a ceremony where Number 13 will be laughed off the park, in much the same way as happens every Sunday when the whistle goes and I head for my car!

Topic: weekend score
From: Marino Casciani
Date: 2010-08-14

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I don't like having to constantly remind convenors to submit scores so all I can post are those that are sent to me.

Topic: weekend scores
From: Doug Laird
Date: 2010-08-14

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Why can't we post all weekend scores? I was out of town and was looking forward to seeing how the teams got on.

Topic: International Games
From: Les "Ringo" Takacs
Date: 2010-08-14

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Whatever country is stamped on your Birth Certificate or Passport should automatically designate your Team. England, Canada, Scotland, rest of the world.....end of story! If any team in any given year has a issue with numbers,(i.e. too much or not enough, than second generation candidates could then be considered to balance out teams.)

Topic: international series
From: Stewart Scott
Date: 2010-08-14

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I think it is about time guys figured out who they are playing for and stop jumping from one team to another , it makes it hard for each convener to pick a squad that is competetive for all teams, I know some teams offer an extra mars bar as a carrot , but come on guys grow up and make your mind up

Topic: Free streaming football matches.
From: alistair Kinnear.
Date: 2010-08-12

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www (dot) footyfree (dot) com I watched the England Hungary match there yesterday, and the Liverpool game last week. The stream freezes up for a few seconds occasionally, but nothing to distract from the game.

Topic: Free streaming football matches.
From: alistair Kinnear.
Date: 2010-08-12

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Topic: Wednesday games.
From: Alistair Kinnear.
Date: 2010-08-12

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It is my understanding that we are to be losing the wenesday games next year. Is there any truth to this?

Topic: jerseys
From: Julian
Date: 2010-08-10

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You mean that next year I could be wearing a shirt once worn by the great Les Bell ? I would keep quiet if I got his old jersey , as I think everybody would want it !!!!!!! Imagine , wearing the shirt of a legend !!! In all honesty though , great idea...this is only my second year , and I have a nice Day-glo green and Day-glo orange as keepsakes . Les , why would I not want to keep these ??????????

Topic: Uniforms
From: Les Bell
Date: 2010-08-09

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No Jim, the planet has actually been spotted in a distant galaxy. It has been named 'Jim', after you I believe. It is a gas giant.

Topic: uniform
From: jim coles
Date: 2010-08-07

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Hey Les, would the planet you're referring to be Uranus?

Topic: uniforms
From: Ringo Takacs
Date: 2010-08-06

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"Ouch!"

Topic: Uniforms
From: John Sullivan
Date: 2010-08-06

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Les you have always been a God (in your own mind that is) and did you not know Scots gaelic spelling is the right way.

Topic: Uniforms
From: Les Bell
Date: 2010-08-06

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Of course, I meant 'finally', not 'really'.

Topic: Uniforms
From: Les Bell
Date: 2010-08-06

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John, thank you for thinking of me as Your God, but really I am just your average guy with a brain the size of a planet. Also, I noticed you spelled 'really' incorrectly but on reading further was very happy to see you remembered to include the 'r' in 'shirts'.

Topic: Uniforms
From: John Sullivan
Date: 2010-08-05

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My God Les has finaly come up with a good idea I also have no need or room for any more shirts.

Topic: Uniforms
From: Les Bell
Date: 2010-08-04

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I was going to send this directly to the executive committee but since it has a bearing on everyone in the league I thougght I would throw it out there for comment first. Every year the BOTSC incurs a uniform expense. How about the league collect up the shirts and shorts at the end of the season and reissue them next season? I personally have no use for a growing collection of soccer shirts so I would be happy to hand mine back in. I understand that it might not be feasible this year though as we likely have no ability to replace lost kit with new uniforms. So, as an alternative, should we consider issuing uniforms for a two year lifespan? Next year, instead of buying 17 shirts for each team, we buy 20 to allow for loss or damage and they get collected at the end of the season and re-used with only socks being issued every year. This would have a positive impact on the financials of the league and would not have an impact on the members other than they have to give the uniforms back in October. If we change a sponsor between seasons, then we only have to buy one new set of uniforms. I am sure the executive committee can find better ways to use the money.

Topic: Time to appreciate and say thanks
From: Silvio
Date: 2010-08-01

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Thanks to Marino( for stopping the ATTACKS). Thanks to the organizing committee( excluding IAN of course) for an enjoyable tournament. The best team won ! Thanks to Geoff for bringing to my attention who LES BELL IS and that I should sign on for ENGLAND and SCOTLAND in addition to CANADA and REST OF THE WORLD!! HA,HA,HA!REST OF THE WORLD Please! ( Frank will have another prosciutto sandwich the moment he will see my name, C'est la vie mon ami) Cheers to all!

Topic: Spam Attacks
From: Marino Casciani
Date: 2010-07-30

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In order to stop the webbotic spam attacks, I have had to insert a security code into the BOTSC Discussion input form. Sorry for the inconvience.

Topic: Action speaks louder than words
From: Doug Laird
Date: 2010-07-28

Les, I don't know what you're taking, but you should either double or half the dosage. What you're on is not working.

Topic: Actions speaking louder than words
From: Les Bell
Date: 2010-07-28

I think Doug is correct. I knew a mime once. Never said a word but always managed to get his point across. I miss him. He got trapped in a box and died.

Topic: Wed. nights
From: Doug Laird
Date: 2010-07-27

Good for you Les. Maybe action will speak louder than words.

Topic: Wednesday Games
From: Leslie Joseph "Ringo" Takacs
Date: 2010-07-26

Thanks to all who addressed my inquiry. As an executive member of the league, I will attend this Wednesday night's game at Iroquois, and make sure it is a "members only" game. Cheers "Ringo" aka. Les Takacs :)

Topic: wed. games
From: sil
Date: 2010-07-26

Hi LES i cannot picture who you are , please forgive my initial signs of senility. I find it hard to understand the LEGAL implications on this matter ( just kidding) your final comment however is SIMPLE, DIRECT , CONCISE and to the point... indeed why should OUTSIDERS kick our balls around? Cheers SILVI

Topic: Wednesday night games
From: Les Bell
Date: 2010-07-26

My view is that this subject needs to be reviewed by the Executive team. If Wednesday games have turned into a free-for-all kickabout then let's not continue to sanction it as a club 'event'. With regard to liability, I was closely involved with player lawsuits against the BSL a few years ago. Our player 'liability waiver' was comprehensive. However, we had not advised each player that signed it to consult with their lawyer prior to signing and the discovery conference threw out the waiver as being irrelevant to the claim. The saving grace, in terms of liability, was the BSL's affiliation with OSA. Their legal beagles took over each case and fought them to a successful conclusion - without that, the BSL would have been insolvent. One 'fact' that surprised me was that the holder of the permit is liable for everything that happens on the field. For instance, if a player breaks his leg against an exposed sprinkler head the City is held harmless and not liable (as the club should perform a safety inspection before each game). So...for any sanctioned event (and that means Wednesday nights, the Rowly Bowl, long weekend kickabouts, NOBS etc) it is imperative that BOTSC have watertight insurance for everyone that steps on to the field. All that aside, I don't see why anyone not affiliated with the club should get to kick our balls around!

Topic: Wed night games
From: Chris L
Date: 2010-07-24

The answer with respect to non-registered players is in the Clubs Constitution. Only registered players can participate in Club scheduled games. Cheers Chris L.

Topic: Wed. games
From: Sil
Date: 2010-07-24

Hi Geoff, This is probably not the first time I agree with your concerns. If the club IS at risk only registered players should play WED. nights. If this idea will be enforced I know 4 players that woul be there every single wed. This is a comment one of them made" I don't bother with wednesdays since there is a chance i could not play at all" Kick around ,YES but only for registered players. Cheers SILVIO. Again everyone is entitled to my opinion,,,

Topic: Wednesday Night Games
From: Geoff P
Date: 2010-07-24

If there is a possibility that this club could be involved with legal issues arising from incidents on Wednesdays, I think that all 'outsiders' should be banned from playing immediately. A person or persons could take over the Permit next year and BOTSC have no involvement. They can decide who plays and pays for the field rental. For some reason the Wednesday night interest has disappeared it may be time for the club to drop Wednesday's from the schedule. Last Wednesday's game had zero members from one of the scheduled teams and about four from the other, making the game 'a kick around', which is probably what it should be.

Topic: wed. night games
From: sil
Date: 2010-07-24

Since I elected FERD as My MENTOR( he,he, he... FERD used to coach people like Martin Wilson, DREW, myself and others) I decided to throw in my two liras worth. First and foremost a sincere thank you to all convenors, they are doing a commendable and remarkable job( I find it difficult keeping the U17 working cohesively and I venture to say Harmoniously together) imagine a bunch of old men, grumpy, grouchy, aching all over ha,ha,ha ... talking about myself again!!!! In second place as regards WED. games , could we prioritize the situation? A. players belonging to the 2 teams FIRST. B. players registered next and C. OUTSIDERS only if needed to make up #s.ALL are entitled to MY opinion , including myself of course!!! P.S. beware all , next year we might have another team added to the international games It could be SICILY, HA HA HA! CHEERS Silvio

Topic: Submissions to our Club Forum
From: Bryan Clarke
Date: 2010-07-24

Having been dragged from the neandethral swamps into our world of instant electronic communication, I have no idea as to how to address this issue, but could not one of you computer whiz-kids come up with a way to block any Forum input which is unsigned ?? Cheers, Bryan.

Topic: wednesday night games
From: stewart scott
Date: 2010-07-23

I agree that none members should not be allowed to play , we pay for the permits for the field , what does this individual pay , plus he is not our age from what I have seen. The exec should make the rules and tell him thanks but no thanks.

Topic: Wed. nights
From: Doug Laird
Date: 2010-07-23

I agree with Ringo, No Pay No Play. We've played some weekend games short handed so I don't see changing the rules for Wed. nights. End of story.

Topic: Wednesday nights
From: Les Bell
Date: 2010-07-23

I always thought that 'guests' on Wednesdays only got on the field to make up numbers...they really should not play at the expense of a club member. Injuries and litigation are a different matter and I can only offer a BSL viewpoint because we have had more than one lawsuit during my time as an executive member of that league. Firstly, the permit holder is liable for anything that happens on that field - for instance, if a player breaks an ankle on a sprinkler head BOTSC is in the firing line, not the city. As for the waiver, in the BSL's case, a discovery conference in litigation initiated by an injured player resulted in our waiver being thrown out, and it was previously thought to be watertight. Fact is, we had not required the player to take legal advice before signing it and the signed waiver was adjudged invalid, so our potential liability was on the table. The saving grace was OSA group insurance which came with legal 'protection' and OSA brought their legal beagles to bear to defend the BSL. So really, BOTSC should ensure it has solid group insurance and check coverage conditions. If coverage only applies to stated, registered members then every time we allow a guest to kick a ball (and that includes the Rowly Bowl, long weekend pickup games and any other 'event' we stage where BOTSC's name is on the permit) we are at risk of litigation arising from injury. Not sure if this helps, but maybe Ringo has raised something that the Executive Committee should conduct a review on, especially since my experience with this is not current.

Topic: Wednesday night games
From: Julian Kinnear
Date: 2010-07-23

I have heard the same comments . The suspect player shows up every Wednesday , while league members sit on the bench . Not that it matters , but I was told he isn't even the right age for our league . Send them packing if they aren't league players . What if he hurts one of us , we can't red card him , suspend him or kick him out of a league he is not a member of . Funny thing is , he is known so well [ shows you how often he does show up ] most of the players the week I played , all knew him by name .

Topic: Wednesday Games
From: Leslie Joseph "Ringo" Takacs
Date: 2010-07-23

Question boys?? Should we allow "non-registered" members to participate in our Wednesday evening games? I have overheard several discussions that we should not allow "anyone" play on Wednesday nights unless they registered with BOTSC and have signed the waiver we all do when we join the league. Two points which were highlighted, 1) Why should a payed/registered member stand on the sideline to watch a non-member play, and 2) What are the implications if a non-member injures a registered member during a game??(or the reverse??)...would the league be subject to a potential lawsuit? What's your thoughts?....I say "no pay no play" after all, Wednesday's are still "technically" a sanctioned league venue.

Topic: Spam on the Forum
From: Les Bell
Date: 2010-07-21

Looks like we are getting useless messages posted on the Forum again...well, other than mine that is!!! All the same, I just wanted to say I appreciate the effort it takes to clear this stuff up on the site - thanks.

Topic: Soccer Ball
From: Roger Knight
Date: 2010-07-20

After the 9:00am soccer game at Nelson park someone took the game ball from on top of my sports bag. Would the person please return it and no cards will be issued Roger Knight

Topic: Thanks Doug
From: somebody
Date: 2010-07-16

I cannot help but respond with a resounding THANK YOU Doug! " it is not the sick, not the 70+ years old" It is the Unfair , forced substitutions of a player who is not late, is experienced, is skillfull, makes sure he does not have an extra beer the night before, gets his necessary rest , excercise 2-3 times a week, is highly motivated, all in preparation and to honour of the game. Is it really FAIR to force this player to substitute REPEATEDLY when he is ready to contribute to the economy of the game as much or more than his tmate who stays on UNCONDITIONALLY? Fair pay _ Fair play PLEASE! And by the way about the language , I do not swear , not in Englesh anyway.....Have a nice KAPUSTU!!!!!

Topic: Equal play
From: Doug Laird
Date: 2010-07-13

It's not the 70+, sick, or wounded guys that are the problem, it's the 90min. guys that are. If they offer to come off and are refused that's one thing, but if they expect everyone else to change with each other instead, then they need to look at themselves and ask "Is that fair." Maybe get it sorted out before the game starts, that way there's safety in numbers and harmony might return.

Topic: Foul Language
From: Les Bell
Date: 2010-07-13

Roger is dead on in his view about when to take a stand during a game on foul language. Maybe the benchmark should be that if the ref feels it can be heard at the sideline, then the payer has 'crossed that line'.

Topic: Equal play.
From: Les Bell
Date: 2010-07-13

Well said Geoff...to one of your points (which you have raised more than once on the Forum) why is it that so many people who feel that they have something important to say hide behind the 'anonymous' option? Really, if you feel so strongly about a subject that you want to be heard then why would you not identify yourself in some way - even initials or nickname? Most likely it is easier to be caustic or accusatory from a hiding-place but once you put your name to your comments you will probably find that you think a little bit more about what you want to say and how you want to say it. Then, I think (and Chris Lynch brought this up in an earlier response) there will be less 'bitching' and more constructive commentary on this site. Honestly, I would love to hear from one of our anonymous contributors (even if they do not 'sign' their name) why it is that they prefer to be invisible on the Club Forum.

Topic: Equal Pay, Equal Play
From: Geoff Perks
Date: 2010-07-12

Hey, Mr Anon, When you progress to the position of Convener you will realize that EQUAL PAY EQUAL PAY is really not as straightforward as you say. We have members 70+ years old that are happy for 10 minutes 'here and there' throughout the game without a complaint. We have members returning from sickness or injury that 'insist' on limited time, so your theory doesn't always work. Yes, I consider myself a wise BOTSC member and I don't 100% agree with you comments. If you are, who I think you are: 1) Please submit your name to your comment. 2) You are a member of a very good team this year. Please don't mess it up for your fellow players and yourself. Oh! I forgot, the foul language remark is directed at you too!

Topic: Foul Language
From: Roger Knight
Date: 2010-07-12

I have read about the comments regarding foul language and have to say that When Les Bell was president of the BSL he contacted the referee's association and asked us to take a strong stand against foul language being used on BSL fields. It was said to us referee's that the BSL had been notified by City Hall that if foul language continued, then field permits would be pulled. In those days my way of handling it was to advise both team captains that any player who used foul language "that spilled over the line" would be subjet to a verbal warning, 2nd time a caution, 3rd time dismissal. It usually worked and in fact I did caution a small number of players but in my now lengthy officiating career I only dismissed one player, in Oakville, for foul language. ( I was applauded by all the wives and girlfriends) Foul language will always be used but as long as it does not cross the line OR is not abusive to another player I can live with it. I have to say in defence of the officials that sometimes when foul language is said, that play has progressed onward and our attention has gone on ahead with the ball, so we can miss it. If we do miss it please let us know because a player who does it once will likely do it again and we can now keep an eye/ear open for the offender.

Topic: Playoffs
From: Les Bell
Date: 2010-07-12

Just noticed the schedule for the semifinals of the playoffs has 6th and 7th teams playing...looks like an error as that indicates there are 14 teams. It probably should be 5th and 6th teams playing.

Topic: Typo
From: Doug Laird
Date: 2010-07-10

In the section " About Us" it says we play at Brock every Sunday and also every Wed. Maybe it can be corrected. Thanks, Doug

Topic: Equal Pay - Equal Play - Conduct - and other things
From: Andy
Date: 2010-07-10

I come driving a long distance to play the game. For me, if I can score a goal, of course I would feel good. But at the end of the day, it does not really matter and that is not really why I come here. All I want to do is just to play a good game, have fun and make friends. So far I have found this to be an excellent group of people to be associated with and that is the reason I still keep coming from so far. It would be really nice, if everyone can take things a little lightly in the spirit of having fun and just play a good friendly game rather than taking things too seriously. If you really wanted to know, I played only about 15 minutes out of the 90 minutes during my last game, while many never came out. I really have no complaints about it and it does not really matter to me that much. When my captain asks me to change and come to the bench, I always comply with a smile. But obvoiusly some do not like that. While we can not do a hair splitting adjustment of time for each player, I think team managers should look into this a little more closely to ensure that everyone gets a fair amount of time to play. After all none of us are aspiring to play for the World Cup and be the world's top scorer one day. We are doing this for fun and recreation. So let everyone enjoy their time fairly in the field, instead of giving some players more time in the hope of scoring one more goal.

Topic: TO the individual who stated "Totalling embarassing......."
From: anon......
Date: 2010-07-09

Have you ever considered this reality? " EQUAL PAY EQUAL PLAY" the problem woul be GONE..... Anon....LY YOURS The president noticed that somthing was not fair last year, I could not help but notice. Again this year it is occurring... He has been informed of it by the way. Look it, all of it it is for fun, no record is kept of results, it is a recreational activity , we are all equal. Why are some MORE equal then others? I stand my space " EQUAL PAY EQUAL PLAY" Anyone disagreeng is not a wise OTSplayer Cheers this is my vew on my situation and by the way we must mind our language that is for sure.... Cheers and have a good summer!

Topic: Club Forum
From: Chris L
Date: 2010-07-09

Les. Review By-Law 6. I completely agree with you with respect to the language and attitude of players and applaud your initiative in challenging the entire league to do better. At the exec meeting last we discussed the topic and requested that convenors take an actove role in toning down the rhetoric and language. Once again my earlier comment was not targetted at you it was aimed at the anonymous individual who was targetting specific people. In my (humble) opinion this is not the correct forum to register specific and personal complaints. If someone feels that strongly about the actions of one individual then they should put it in writing to the committee - signed of course.

Topic: Club Forum
From: Les Bell
Date: 2010-07-08

...then maybe I am reading the wrong bit Chris. What I saw in the Constitution in terms of written complaints was related to off-field actions and was to be directed to the executive, not the discipline, committee. My original comment, which was my point for writing, was not to point fingers at specific individuals but to ask that we check the trend of high-decibel profanity otherwise the cameraderie will soon be lost to the club as we all get a bit more serious - and grudges will no doubt start to be held. This forum is important for exactly the reason Doug points out. We have many teams, we play all over town and we retrench to different locales. If any of us has something to say to stimulate discussion aimed at benefitting the BOTSC then this is the best medium to air one's views. It's funny, I never hear the spectators, the neighbours, the kids or the officials bawling out the language. Just us players. Do we really have that little control of our emotions just because we are 'in the heat of battle?'

Topic: Club forum
From: Chris L
Date: 2010-07-08

Les, That wasn't my point and you know it. Far be it from me to suggest that we should loose the benefit of your dissertations. My point was that some unknown persons were getting close to making specific comments about specific people. In my opinion targetting specific people has no place on this forum - unless very clearly done in jest. Your comment was targetted at one and all and therefore my reply wasn't aimed at you. Check the constitution again Les. It clearly states that if any member has a grudge, bitch or complaint against another member they should address that in writing to the discipline committee for them to look into. The committee cannot issue discipline but just reports to the exec. I agree with you that some need to tone it down. The number of cards issued this year is way ahead of any other year.

Topic: Forum
From: Doug Laird
Date: 2010-07-08

When we had eight teams we saw everyone on a weekly basis and any problems were immediatley known about or even sorted. Now we're lucky if we see everyone during the season, so this page keeps me informed of the goings on in the league, beefs or not. I think everyone is entitled to Les's opinion and possibly mine also.

Topic: Language
From: Les Bell
Date: 2010-07-08

Why the discipline committee Chris? I do not believe I have the authority to refer anything to the discipline committee and there is certainly nothing in the club Constitution to support your 'advice'. And why do you say this is not the forum? I double checked - it is actually called 'Club Forum'. If I cannot state my opinion on this site (without a summary judgement of 'bitching' being levelled against my thoughts), then why have the forum at all. My understanding was that this is a place for exchange of ideas and discussion and on that premise I put something up for discussion. Have I misunderstood the point of the Club Forum? If so then I withdraw the statements I made wherein I asked that we all consider our surroundings on a Sunday morning and keep the foul language down.

Topic: Complaints
From: Chris L
Date: 2010-07-07

Guys, If you have a complaint to make this isn't the forum to do it in. Put it in writing to the Discipline Committee and we will look into it. We then report to the Exec body for them to take action. Nothing will ever get resolved by bitching in e-mails.

Topic: Conduct
From: Les Bell
Date: 2010-07-07

Since it is not known who submitted the comment under 'postings', let me make one thing quite clear to that individual...I did not submit my observation because I have 'too much time on my hands'. My time is valuable to me and I spend it wisely...clearly I consider the investment of my valuable time well spent in passing an honest comment forward via the BOTSC forum on a subject that I feel should be of interest/concern to everyone who is involved with the club - and not just playing members, spectators too. I do not fire comments off without thinking them through either and always sit back before I type. My point, since you seem to have missed it in your hurry to respond, is that certain demonstrations of poor behaviour probably need to be addressed, it's that simple. What my mother used to call 'sailor language', especially at shouted levels during our games, is something I believe should be curtailed, not condoned. Perhaps we will all smarten up via some form of evolution, perhaps the convenors should remind their tams about the standards of conduct before each game, perhaps it needs stringent action on the field by the ref, perhaps it is for the executive committee to solve...the fact is it happens often. We all know it is not acceptable yet when I raise a clearly stated objection I find it amazing that one of the responses is 'why use the internet..what's wrong with the old art of conversation?. I used the internet because I can reach 200 people with 5 minutes of typing whereas the 'old art of conversation' would mean I would have to talk to 200 people over the course of a whole summer and drink 200 extra beers. There is simply no excuse for ugly language that the whole neighbourhood can hear ('heat of battle', for instance). I agree with the comment that it is about maturity and respect...whoever said that was dead on. It's just my opinion guys, and have always believed that everyone is entitled to my opinion.

Topic: Conduct
From: les Bell
Date: 2010-07-07

Topic: Postings
From: John Sullivan
Date: 2010-07-07

Well said Geoff

Topic: The Last 4 Postings
From: Geoff Perks
Date: 2010-07-06

Why not add your name to your comment? Anonomous could be anybody connect or unconnected to this club. We may be able to correct the issues if we can put a name to the complaint.

Topic: old fashion
From:
Date: 2010-07-06

I agree that it should be delt with one on one, but there are still some guys that have been in the league for years who think that they have the right to walk up to members of the executive between games bitch , whine, or plead thier case. I feel that this is the wrong , it puts these guys on the spot . They have no idea about the problem and their only hearing one side of the story, how are they supposed to be impartial.

Topic: Postings
From:
Date: 2010-07-06

Guys, maybe in this day & age of the computer - a few people with too much time on their hands need to take a step back. Some feel that they need to throw their 2 cents worth in no matter how trivial the issue. In the past we have resolved our issues in a common sense manner - thru the proper channels i.e. convener's. Rather than battling over the internet - maybe we should all sit back before we "type". Once you have posted your message there is no turning back.It's there for everyone to read & react! Why not try the old art of conversation.

Topic: attitudes/playing time/subs
From:
Date: 2010-07-06

Les, is absolutely correct! Unfortunately this is not about a hard tackle or a punch. This incident was over playing time and certain players coming off and others don't. In saying that thou there is a way to deal with it and yelling,swearing, and pointing figures like a 2 year old while a game is playing, is not the way. IT IS TOTALLY EMBARRASSING FOR EVERYONE! This is not the first or last incident with this player. It is bloody recreational soccer guys! The games mean nothing, Win or lose we drink the booze! it is all about maturity and RESPECT! I'am for one if it continues will no longer be part of this league.

Topic: foul language
From:
Date: 2010-07-05

I don't condone the foul language, but it's an unfourtunate reaction that occurs in the heat of battle. Having witness the action and also hearing some of the yelling between the two or three players involved. there were very harsh comments made, to the effect that there would be pay back from a previous game from years ago . in which the second player used some very choice and colorful words. the referee did not do or say anything to the individuals, play on.There has not bin one single game this year that there has not been decent towards the refs or towards the opposition,or even towards each other on there own respctive teams I thought that we are all grown men playing in a social league for fun, everybody has to go to work the next day. maybe at the end of the game the two convenors get together to disscus or resolve the issue

Topic: Conduct...
From: Les Bell
Date: 2010-07-05

I am sure this will spark a debate and I certainly don't want to throw names out there but when are we, or at least some of us, going to grow up while we are on the field and stop the arguing, ranting and (more than anything) bellowing foul language out there? Yesterday I heard more foul language, and from a distance too, than one would normally hear on a guys fishing trip. There were women at the side of the field, people walking their dogs and at least one young girl who was paying attention to the game because she would fetch the ball for us when it went out of play. It is one thing to mutter something under your breath but this was embarrassing and unacceptable and if it is not stopped it will end up being a blight ion the image of this league. So if our membership cannot control their outbursts and bad language themselves, then the Executive Committee needs to charge the officials with enforcing our standards and get some yellow cards out their for the offenders (and if the behaviour persists, then get them off the field). It is not difficult guys, I am sure none of us behaves that way in our own homes in front of our families, why is it acceptable in a public place in front of other peoples' families.

Topic: age requirments?
From: Jeff
Date: 2010-07-03

Hello all, I was just speaking with someone who plays in your league that came into the Nike store in Oakville that I manage and he suggested to look up this league. He said it was a 40 plus league but on your website it states 45 as the min age requirement. He thought that there may be a chance to get in. I would like to play if any of your teams are in need of an extra player. I have submitted a request form. Thanks, Jeff

Topic: Games cut short unnecessarily
From: Mark Barrie
Date: 2010-07-03

Bill, it seems a number of us have concerns about games being ended before regulation time. I understand it's going to be addressed at the next Executive meeting.

Topic: Article 2B
From: Bill Hom
Date: 2010-06-30

CORRECTION: The date should have been 27 June not 22 June. Sorry for the slight confusion. Cheers, Bill

Topic: Article 2B / Offside
From: Bill Hom
Date: 2010-06-29

Hello Joe, It was not due to the weather, rather a televised game. To assist you with your previous post about Law 11 - Offside, there is a very good interactive guide concerning this rule and it is at the following link: http://www.fifa.com/worldfootball/lawsofthegame.html Youtube has alot of videos concerning offside as well. Hope this helps. Cheers, Bill

Topic: Article 2B
From: Joe Hevesy
Date: 2010-06-29

Bill, I'm wondering if the reason the game was cut short was due to the intense heat and humidity that day. I know I lost 3 lbs in sweat myself. Luckily, it only took a few beers and a steak to put it right back where it belonged.

Topic: Technical question - Offside rule
From: Joe Hevesy
Date: 2010-06-29

In a recent World Cup Game a goal was allowed that appeared to be plainly offside. Watching the video replay, I wondered about the rule application. If a player is in an offside position when the forwarding pass is kicked but he comes back on-side to retrieve the ball which was passed short, is he still considered to be offside?

Topic: Golf Tournament
From: Bill Hom
Date: 2010-06-27

Ian, Thoroughly enjoyed the Tournament! A lively atmosphere and a belly full of prime (rib). Well Done! Bill

Topic: Article 2B
From: Bill Hom
Date: 2010-06-27

Article 2 B in the Club Constitution is as follows: "To establish a club which enables adults to enjoy PLAYING the game of soccer for recreation." Unfortunately, the game played June 22, 2010 at 0900 was cut rather short and not with both convenors' consent. It is not about winning or losing it is about playing. When several individuals take it upon themselves and deny club members the opportunity to play, it sets a negative tone for the game and it just leaves one feeling deflated. I certainly hope the Club looks at this seriously!

Topic: Golf Tournament
From: Ron van Riel
Date: 2010-06-27

My compliments to Ian McRorie (and his assistants) for a very well run Golf Tournament. It takes a lot of work to make this kind of event run smoothly and it is appreciated. Despite the rainy weather an excellent time was had! - Ron

Topic: Spam Attacks
From: Marino Casciani
Date: 2010-06-22

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Topic: scores
From: doug laird
Date: 2010-05-27

The scores each week would be good, that way we know where we stand come the playoffs. We need a bit of competition or why bother with a draft, just pull names out a hat. We used to get results before.

Topic: Posting scores
From: Brian McLaughlin
Date: 2010-05-25

If it's not too much trouble, I wouldn't mind seeing the scores each week. I'd only want that week's scores though. I wouldn't want to have the scores from past week's posted on the website. That might lead to informal standings being kept. I like it the way we do it now - bragging rights on the day and forgotten by the following week.

Topic: I meant geoff.
From: Alistair.
Date: 2010-05-24

As above,,,,,

Topic: My apologies jeff......
From: Alistair.
Date: 2010-05-23

.....I thought you meant to post league tables, not merely the week-ends results. To post each week-ends results early week makes perfect sense. Bash on.

Topic: Scores
From: Geoff
Date: 2010-05-22

I repeat myself....... Scores only, knowing results doesn't make us more competitive. Standings...do!

Topic: Scores and standings.
From: Alistair.
Date: 2010-05-22

I don`t see a reason to post scores and standings. I have enjoyed friendly play in this league for ten seasons now and feel that the introduction of such measurement would lead to unneccesary competitiveness. One of the things I appreciate most about this league is the simple fact that the play ends after 90 minutes on the field and we all return to the friendships and associations we have developed over the years. Granted, as the league expands more younger players join and the play naturally picks up, but I think most will agree that putting a bounty on league standings and scores will take away the appeal of a friendly runout on a sunday morning. As an aside I would like to take the oportunity to personally thank the executive for once again providing a seamless event on a sunday morning. I think we tend to take for granted the enormous effort the club managers put forth so that we can pretend we are in the premiership. I ran a team in the BSL over 35s for several years and have some understanding of the level of commitment and attention to detail necessary to field just one team, never mind 12. I particularly appreciate the efforts of tony Houghton for ensuring that we are all wearing good kit at a reasonable price...a considerable challenge for one team, as I repeat myself.....

Topic: Posting Scores
From: Paul Tyrrell
Date: 2010-05-21

That's fine Geoff. I'm OK with just the scores being posted. I don't want it to be too competitive; I'm only out to have some fun. Cheers!

Topic: Harry Ayers
From: Chris Lynch
Date: 2010-05-20

Last week we lost not only a past member of the this Club but one of the people who started the popularity of football in Burlington. Harry Ayers passed away on May 13th in his 80th year. Harry Thomas Ayers (Aug 12, 1930 - May 13, 2010) Peacefully at the JBMH, Burlington on Thursday, May 13, 2010 in his 80th year. Beloved husband for 60 years of Eileen (nee Barnett). Cherished father of the late Glenn Ayers (May 10, 2010) and Susan Mowat (Gord) of Burlington. Loved Papa of Tara, Curtis, Shane, Stacey, Nathan, and 6 great-grandchildren. Stepbrother of Trevor Hubbard (Jane) in England. Private cremation. Expressions of symptathy to the Canadian Cancer Society would be appreciated by the family. Please sign the Book of Condolence at www.kitchingsteepeandludwig.com.

Topic: Scores
From: Belton
Date: 2010-05-20

Good point Geoff, I could accept that.

Topic: Scores
From: Geoff
Date: 2010-05-19

Paul, I'm not suggesting keeping standings, that would make it more competitive and that is not a direction we want to take. Gord Miller suggested that posting the scores would be a good 'team balancing' tool if we needed to address that issue during the season. It's a good point.

Topic: Posting scores and standings on website
From: Paul Tyrrell
Date: 2010-05-19

I would like to see the scores and standings posted. What it does (I believe) is bring a hightened interest to the members of the league to see where their team stands. After all, most of us check the EPL and Champions league stats on the websites because we are interested and follow certain teams. We are all competitive by nature and want to do well but we also should realize that the BOTSC is recreational and we are out to have fun, get some exercise and form friendships. That's why I joined.

Topic: scores
From: Belton
Date: 2010-05-19

Hmmm..... let me see, just the score, then, just the standings, and if we win on Sunday we could go top, hey if we win the rest of our games we could finish 1st in the standings, but wait a minute we have a couple of old diddies on our team, Belton and Perks, hope they don't turn up on Sunday, if they do make sure they don't get on much, maybe 5-10 mins, that'll should keep them happy, don't put them at the back or up front, maybe the outside of midfield... no... just make sure they're not on at the same time. Now I know you would never, ever, get to be like that Jeff, but I feel some others may.

Topic: International Games
From: Peter
Date: 2010-05-18

I see that more details are to be posted re: the International games. I remember a comment in the Minutes of the Executive Meeting expressing concern to the effect that these games seemed to be becoming contrary to the usual good spirits of our club. I believe last year participation was by invitation. Will there be a format change this year?

Topic: Scores
From: Geoff
Date: 2010-05-18

Hey Mike, A wee sneaky start to it all? All what?

Topic: Scores
From: Geoff
Date: 2010-05-18

The scores used to be in the Post a few years back and it wasn't a problem amongst the members then... why should it be different now?

Topic: scores
From: Belton
Date: 2010-05-18

What difference does it make to know the scores when they are all but forgotten by the time we leave the pub? Or would some like to push the league in a new direction of which this is a wee sneaky start to it all? Just a thought, let me know.

Topic: Publish Scores Weekly
From: Geoff Perks
Date: 2010-05-16

With the addition of two new teams and two Sunday games at Central, our games are now spread across town. Gone are the days of everyone knowing the results when we were all at the same field. I would like to see the scores published on the web site. This is for general interest only. It would do no harm to the club structure, so why not? Conveners could call the scores into Marino and he could put them on the BOTSC site within days.

Topic: Fields
From: Geoff Perks
Date: 2010-05-09

Hi Dave, Go to : burlingtonsoccerleague.ca click on fields on the left. There is a map there.

Topic: Where are the parks
From: Dave M
Date: 2010-05-08

Hi all, I'm a newbie and not familiar with all the Burlington parks. Is there a link on the site that I may be missing or does anyone know a good site that I can get maps or addresses for the parks? Thanks!

Topic: Lester look alikes
From: Geoff
Date: 2010-04-26

Clarkie, They are all trying to look like Renzo!

Topic: fathers and sons/daughters.
From: alistair
Date: 2010-04-26

i refuse to play against 40 year old women. i might recognise some of them from plenty of fish.....or worse, they might recognise me!

Topic: er, fathers and sons.....
From: alistair.
Date: 2010-04-26

the master engineer decided my brother and i have to suffer another season together and so i must accept my fate.....trying to bat down fifty yard swerving crosses ripping in from the right. oh fate hath handed me such bitter sorrow. until the next time my foot connects, of course. regarding playing with my sons, i will have to wait until 2036. i don`t know if my wheelchair would be able to move that quick.

Topic: 2010 Team Photos
From: Bryan Clarke
Date: 2010-04-26

Lester must have been a really prolific stud!!! I see many of our new players are his spitting image,--- must be the exercise!!

Topic: Father Son Daughter Mother thing
From: Chris L
Date: 2010-04-24

But what about those of us who don't have a mother and are just B-----ds. Oh sorry I forgot - we are Refs......

Topic: Father Son thing
From: Doug Laird
Date: 2010-04-24

After a son has joined the club, can he sign his mother up?

Topic: Father & Sons and Daughters.
From: Geoff Perks
Date: 2010-04-24

What about the members that haven't been "blessed" with sons? Some members have daughters and some of the daughters are better players than some of the sons! Will they ever be invited to join this club?

Topic: Father Son thing
From: Doug laird
Date: 2010-04-23

Why doesn't someone start a Father Son league where the only stipulation is you have to be father and son, age doesn't matter and leave the Old Timers to the Old Timers. Just stirring the pot.

Topic: Don't say they weren't warned.
From: Gord Bradley
Date: 2010-04-22

Yeah I showed Lynne. Don't forget she is Scottish and said Scotland have as much chance of winning as England. She just said that after 2 weeks England will be out anyway and I'll be back to do the housework.

Topic: Grandfather Rule
From: John Sullivan
Date: 2010-04-22

I agree with Geoff on a Grandfather Rule, you of the rulling class have decide the minimum age to play is 45 so if a player is not 45 at the start of the season he can not play until he is, my son who will be 40 this year asked if I could get him in and I told him he will have to wait 5 more years. this Grandfather rule is idiotic, could I grandfather my other son in at 34, NO so why at 40, all players under 45 should be told sorry but come back when you reach the right age to play, there must be plenty of men out there over 45 who are ready to play

Topic: Dont' say they weren't warned
From: Chris L
Date: 2010-04-22

Gord, I showed this to Doreen. After I pulled the remote out of my mouth (now toothless) I agreed that rule 2 does indeed refer to her. She wondered if you had actually had the nerve to show your missus the list and if so - can we have your new address to update our files... Cheers

Topic: Don't Say They Weren't Warned!
From: Gord Bradley
Date: 2010-04-22

Cleck on the following image

Topic: Father & Son
From: Brian....HENRY
Date: 2010-04-14

I heard that Zola's dad is in the Oldtimers

Topic: Dad & Lad Combo
From: Geoff
Date: 2010-04-14

Just trying to get some responses Mike, I know it's difficult to play in the young 'uns leagues.

Topic: Father & Son
From: Mike Shaw
Date: 2010-04-13

I was disappointed at the new rule for the age group of 45 years. I have a son who is 38 years of age. Its very unlikely I will ever get the chance to play with him in this league. I am happy that the fathers & sons are playing together, also that the conveners were able to work it out between themselves. Fathers and sons proud of each other playing together, not often does this happen. To Geoff's idea of fathers playing in theirs sons league, Its no possible 60 year old fathers playing in a competitive younger league.

Topic: Dads and Lads
From: Geoff Perks
Date: 2010-04-13

Got a great idea! If the Dad's are so desperate to play with their sons...........Why don't the Dads go and play in the sons leagues? That way they will be able to play with them right away without waiting years.

Topic: Grandad rule
From: Dave Shaw
Date: 2010-04-07

Glad that the father and son issue is resolved in the true spirit of the club. The same thing happened last year, and Bob Bryer and myself traded so that John and Joe could be on the same team. What a very proud feeling, not only to play in a team with Dad, but also for grandchildren to come out and see Dad and Grandad in the same team. And hats off to the Grandads that are still able to play at such a gruelling pace!! However, with the new age limit of 45, there is less chance of this happening again. Dads (including myself, and many others, if still playing), would now need to be 65-70, to play with 45 year old sons. It's a constitition issue, but maybe we should consider a "Grandfather rule" (sorry for the pun), so that sons only need to be the previous age limit of 40, to get into the league? Dave

Topic: Dutch Orange
From: Pete Barret
Date: 2010-04-06

Ron. Glad you and JD from PNE have resolved the father-son-playing-together issue. I hope we never get to a grandfather-son-grandson situation (Could be a possibility the way Lucien is going) as it would really need some accommodating. Question, which player will be going to Geoff’s team, Joe Davis? Sorry. I presume you have picked the Dutch Orange uniform; this should go well with my collection, especially the Emerald Green from a few years ago. Looking forward to the next few months - Pete

Topic: Fathers and Sons
From: Ron van Riel
Date: 2010-04-06

John, thanks for your posting. I took your words in the context of a proud Father wanting to play soccer with his son, no offence taken on my end. My son just graduated from the Ontario Police College and will be sworn in April 15th as a Niagara Region Police Officer. I understand what it feels like to be proud of your son and the good lord willing I will get the opportunity to share the field with him someday. Now is the time to put the rest of the league on notice that the Hafele "A" Team is coming with the Davies "Dynamic" Duo leading the way! - Ron van Riel P.S. John I think you will look great in Dutch Orange!

Topic: Father and Son's
From: John Davies
Date: 2010-04-06

First of all let me apologize to Ron van Riel for asking him to recognize what our club is all about. The personal wording I used was wrong to be aimed at Ron for I know he is an active and supportive member of what our club is all about . My comments were really aimed at the system being used to hopefully place father and son’s together on the same team if they so wish. This obviously is not a guarantee and must in some cases rely on convenors willing to trade. Finally I would like to thank Geoff Perks and Ron van Riel for coming to an agreement that allows my son Joe and myself to play together this season. We are both looking forward to getting started and playing in the 2010 season. John Davies

Topic: Seriously guys
From: Brian McLaughlin
Date: 2010-04-05

Is this really what we intend as use of the Forum? A simple phone call could have resolved this "father/son" situation. A phone call. Further to that, calling out a convener (a member devoting personal time to aid the club) about his unwillingness to make a trade is blatantly unfair. Without knowing that father and son wanted to play together means they SHOULD be drafted as separate. The onus is on the members to tell us they would like to play together before the draft and we can TRY to accommodate. But, I digress. A phone call would have resolved this. A simple phone call. Seriously?!?!

Topic: fathers and sons
From: Julian Kinnear
Date: 2010-04-05

Can I request "Not" to be on my brothers team ??? The old fool plays more like my dad than my brother !! He won't pass , I won't shoot . I tell him what to do , he doesn't listen .He tells me what to do , I tell him to shut up . I duck for headers when he puts a ball across . My crosses are usually pretty accurate , but it is kinda hard missing his giant head , no matter how far away . He goes on about Liverpool , where as I like a good club . Two years running stuck with that old misery , I must be friggin jinxed !!!!!!!!!!! You other family members actually request each other ???? Take this in jest , as I really do enjoy playing with him , well other than the weekly Liverpool , Liverpool , friggin Liverpool lectures ...get rid of that "waiter they have for a manager" and their not half bad , which by the way , makes them only half good !!!!!!

Topic: Father and Son's
From: Ron van Riel
Date: 2010-04-05

Well having read John's length contribution I feel the need to respond.

Firstly, I believe I know exactly what this league is about and that is why I waited to become a member and then jumped at the first opportunity to contribute to this fantastic club. In my second year in the league I volunteered to be a convener and continue that role this year. I have also volunteered to fill the role of club secretary and contribute in many less formal ways wherever I can.

At the draft there was only one official request from a Father son pairing to be put on the same team and we made sure that happened. In specific reference to John's assumption that I would not agree to trade Joe to Geoff Perks, this is a two way street and Geoff was also not looking to trade John to me. The key in this whole situation is we both went to some length to confirm that there was no official request from the Davies Father and Son duo to play together and we ended it there. The fact that I ended up with the Kinnear brothers on my team was about the other 11 conveners being asleep at the wheel, no specific request was made.

Yesterday morning at Brock Park (a beautiful day) Geoff Perks approached me and let me know about John's forum posting (which I did not see until now) and within minutes we had reached an agreement that unites the Davies Duo on the Hafele "A" Team for the 2010 season...just that easy. Both Geoff and I were in complete sync, committed to upholding the spirit of this league and making whatever accommodation was needed to do just that.

I respect John's frustration and have enjoyed playing both with and against him the last couple of years. I have no issue using the forum to discuss this however I can assure you that a simple email or phone call to me, Geoff, Brian or Fred would have cleared this up instantly.

I trust that the trade we have made will put this issue to rest and we can move forward. I am looking forward to a terrific 2010 season and seeing the Davies Duo in action! Ron van Riel

Topic: Father and Son Issues
From: John Davies
Date: 2010-04-03

For years a topic of conversation amongst club members was the thought of a member’s son joining the club and playing alongside each other on the same team. Finally in the 2008 season Lewis Webster the son of Dave Webster became the first son of a playing member to join our club. Dave and Lewis obviously were looking forward to playing on the same team. Think of it… father and son playing together on a team competing against seven other teams but guess what… it didn’t happen, they were placed on separate teams and what should have been a memorable milestone in the history of the BOTSC turned out to be a nonentity. It has happened again, a father and son have been picked to play on separate teams. In this case it is myself and my son Joe who have not been picked to play on the same team and get this… after studying the game schedule we won’t even be able to watch each other playing as both our teams are scheduled to play at the same kick off times every Sunday throughout the season. At this season’s draft there were three father and sons plus two sets of brothers to be considered. All but one of these couples (myself and my son Joe) managed to be selected on the same team. I have heard that one or two of the above mentioned couples were not selected during the drafting process but after the draft was completed they were given consideration and respectfully traded between a couple of convenors.

Apparently in my case the convenor who selected my son would not agree to trade him to the team that I was selected to play for. The above procedures for placing father and son and brothers together or not together is ludicrous and certainly does not comply with the statement of what our club is all about in the first two paragraphs of the ABOUT US page on our the BOTSC website. (check it out). In my opinion it should be mandatory that father and son play on the same team if they so wish without the quirks of the drafting and trading system.

How should we place father and son / brothers on the same team without the convenor’s crying foul play ? My suggestion is ….. Based on this season’s 3 father and son’s plus 2 sets of brothers (total of 5) 1. The 12 convenor’s pick a number out of a hat. Numbers 1 to 12 2. The convenor’s who draw the numbers 1 to 5 will pick from the father/son /brothers list starting with the convenor who drew number 1 followed by number 2, 3, 4 and 5 3. Commence with the usual drafting of all remaining playing members.

NOTE: To save petty arguments amongst convenor’s this special group should not be graded until the father or son / brother is no longer a BOTSC club member. The above system will guarantee that father and son / 2 brothers will play on the same team.

Finally on a personal note I would like to ask my son's convenor Mr RonVan Riel to recognize just what our club is all about and not to deny the joy, and the pride, and the pleasure of a father and son playing together in the wonderful game we call soccer. I respectfully ask you to allow my son Joe to join me on the team that I will be playing for. I feel sure that my convenor Geoff Perks will be agreeable to a fair exchange. FATHER AND SON PLAYING SOCCER FOR THE SAME TEAM Lets make it happen for our current and future fathers and sons

A NOTE TO THE EXECUTIVE If the current system is continued father and son’s may never enjoy playing together on the same team again. Yours in soccer John Davies BOTSC long standing member.

Topic: Blind darts
From: belton
Date: 2010-04-03

what prizes do they get? one eyed shades? mini hotdogs? braille dartboards? white toothpicks? please let me know your suggestions.

Topic: Blind darts
From: belton
Date: 2010-04-03

I didn't know there were darts that could see, amazing.

Topic: Dart Tournament
From: Duffy
Date: 2010-03-26

The Plough and Harrow is hosting a blind darts tournament. Thursday April 1st Registration is 7-7:30pm Prizes for all. 3040 New Street 905-634-4552 Please bring your own darts.

Topic: Sponsors
From: Ron van Riel
Date: 2010-03-15

Thanks to Mr. Barrett for looking out for the new sponsors! Hafele is a Canadian subsidiary of an 85 year old German Hardware company serving the Kitchen, Closet, Commerical Millwork and Furniture industries. We are a Business to Business company and our exposure on the BOTSC website is abosolutley fine. By the way, welcome Peter to the first edition of the Hafele "A" Team! Just for the record the "A" in Hafele is a major part of our branding and the "A" Team is a reference to that. I "pity the fool" that links our team to an overblown 80s adventure series! For those who are now confused, the "pity the fool" quote can be attributed to the character played br Mr. T in that particular series!

Topic: Comments Forum
From: Peter Barrett
Date: 2010-03-14

Just realized I submitted twice and notice when submitting a comment it’s posted immediately. All the comment pages I read are moderated to filter out anything offensive submitted by the odd reader. I believe the previous web meister declined to post some comments which were considered inappropriate. (Guys, before you hit the keyboard my parents were married and I wasn’t always little)

Topic: Sponsors
From: Peter Barrett
Date: 2010-03-14

Nice to see we have 3 new sponsors but shouldn’t they get equal billing as the existing ones? What is H’A’FELE and where is Paul’s Meat and Fish Market? Trevor’s business card (Burlington Dental Clinic) is listed under Member Services.

Topic: Sponsors
From: Peter Barrett
Date: 2010-03-14

Topic: Immants
From: Jim O'Donnell
Date: 2010-03-01

I just heard about this yesterday from the lads at Sunday morning soccer. All the best to you Immants, get well and we'll see you next season.

Topic: IMANTS
From: Trevor Laingchild
Date: 2010-02-28

I have been away and just heard the news. To Imants,I always remember you finding that rare LP for me some years ago and always enjoy chatting with you about music,you are so knowledgeable. Get well soon my friend. Best Wishes to you.We have many more football games to play together.

Topic: IMANTS
From: STEW SCOTT
Date: 2010-02-28

get well soon and a speedy recovery to a class guy , see you next season all the best, Stew

Topic: Immants
From: Nick Hopwood
Date: 2010-02-27

Get well soon and hope to see you on the field as soon as possible. Take care.

Topic: Imants
From: Brian McLaughlin
Date: 2010-02-27

I got this note from Imants via Dave Shaw: Hi Brian and everyone. Thank you for your kind thoughts. Yes, I had a tumour removed from my brain on Sunday night. All the news has been good since then, and they sent me home last night. I'm in recovery/recuperation mode, with no work or exertion allowed. Obviously I will not be able to take a head shot anytime soon. Please add me to the waiting list for 2011. All being well, I will come out and watch some games when you start playing. Cheers, Imants.

Topic: Immants
From: Foxy
Date: 2010-02-26

Get well soon mate, see you next year

Topic: Imants Krumins
From: Dave Shaw
Date: 2010-02-26

I had the pleasure of having Imants in my team year. He has a great attitude to the game, and this should remind us all why we are still playing, and how lucky we are. So, get well Imants, see you next year.

Topic: immants
From: michael belton
Date: 2010-02-26

Get well soon Immants, we are all thinking of you.

Topic: Immants
From: Tom Ryan
Date: 2010-02-26

Immants, All the Best, I hope you make a speedy recovery and look forward to seeing you play again soon

Topic: Immants
From: Neil Ross
Date: 2010-02-25

I am saddened to hear of your sudden condition but you are in good hands. You have many friends in this club and we are all wishing you a speedy recovery. Good luck Immants and hope to see you soon. Neil

Topic: Imants
From: Mike Shaw
Date: 2010-02-25

Gerry and I went to see him in the hospital last night. He was in good spirits after his operation. We wish you well Imants.

Topic: Immants
From: Gord Bradley
Date: 2010-02-25

Our thoughts are with you Immants. We'll see you on the park in 2011.

Topic: Immants
From: John Sullivan
Date: 2010-02-25

Immants you were a Gentleman to play with and against and I hope to see you out there with us all again soon.

Topic: Immants
From: Bill Hom
Date: 2010-02-25

All the best Immants and a speedy recovery. Hope to see you on the pitch very soon. Cheers!

Topic: Immants
From: Bill Hom
Date: 2010-02-25

All the best Immants and a speedy recovery. Hope to see you on the pitch very soon. Cheers!

Topic: Immants
From: Renzo
Date: 2010-02-25

Immants get well soon! I spoke to Ferd Codognotto last night.Ferd went to visit Immants at the hospital.Apparently the surgery went OK.Immants is awake and talking.Immants asked Ferd to inform the BOTSC executive that he will not play this year,but he wants to be on the waiting list for next year. At present the doctor is not sure what the prognosis will be.They are waiting for the pathologist report. All the Best Immants!

Topic: Immants
From: Les Bell
Date: 2010-02-25

Just wanted to take a moment and wish Immants a speedy and total recovery - this is sad news indeed but our medics are brilliant so let's hope that the speed with which they moved turns out to be the key to Immants' full recovery.

Topic: Immants
From: Doug laird
Date: 2010-02-25

Immants you're in our thoughts, get well soon. All the best.

Topic: Immants Krummins
From: Geoff Perks
Date: 2010-02-24

Thinking of you Immants. Hope all goes well.

Topic: Emmants Krummins
From: Brian McLaughlin
Date: 2010-02-24

I just wanted to post a short note on the status of a fellow member. Emmants Krummins was taken to hospital this past Sunday and they diagnoses him with a brain tumour. He was operated on the same day. When I spoke with his brother, he told me that they were in a "wait & see" position at the moment. Emmants is one of the finest gentlemen I've met during my ten years in the league. Please join me in offering your thoughts and prayers up for him and his family.

Topic:
From: Bill Hom
Date: 2010-02-20

Just curious, have you seen any other club post a waiting list? Secondly, does any one know how other clubs disseminate information concerning the wait list to their respective clubs? Keep the wave flowing. Cheers

Topic: Waiting List
From: Geoff Perks
Date: 2010-02-20

Les & John, My comments were only my personal thoughts. You have a good point. I will raise it at the next meeting. I don't understand why this hasn't been addressed by the exec before now. It appears to be avoided and I don't know why. I will find out though.

Topic: Waiting list
From: Les Bell
Date: 2010-02-19

Geoff, I am not requesting an audited statement of the waiting list, I think if we started with a snapshot of the waiting list once a month and put it on the website then I, for one, would not have to be a middleman. There is nothing secret about the waiting list and I have great confidence that it is managed with integrity so why not just show it?

Topic: Waiting List
From: John Sullivan
Date: 2010-02-18

Geoff I have infact asked many times about the status of my friends and they have told me they have also contacted the club and we still have no answer as to where they are. I know one of them is thinking that after 2 years waiting maybe he should try another league.

Topic: Waiting List
From: Geoff Perks
Date: 2010-02-17

In my humble opinion. Why should the waiting list be published? If a waiting player needs to know where he stands he can call the registrar. If the list is out there for everyone to see he would be inundated with constant calls. Why not leave well alone? If Les or John must know where their friends are on the list, just ask.

Topic: Waiting List
From: Les Bell
Date: 2010-02-12

Well said John, I have asked the same thing more than once and proposed that it be discussed at either the AGM or an exec meeting or just simply published. This is not about constitutional change either, it is simply about publishing the waiting list process and being transparent about waiting list status and activity. Like you, I have friends who have been on the waiting list a while and when they ask it is embarrassing to say the least to have to admit tha I hae n clue where they sit in line or even how it all works. Why can we not just create a waiting list page on the site, show the list, show the player ratings and show activity against the list throughout the coming season?

Topic: Waiting List
From: John Sullivan
Date: 2010-02-11

I like other people have asked several times for the waiting list to be published on this site, I have a couple of friends who are asking me where on the list they are and I have to say I dont know, so once again Im asking for the list to be available to all, how difficult can it be or is there some reason we are not allowed to see it.

Topic: Music Hall
From: David Hamon
Date: 2010-02-06

I would like to thank Ian Muffet for organizing the Olde Tyme Music Hall event, it was a great night's entertainment. Michael Belton and the Drury Lane folks are outstanding talents and are to be congratulated on their awesome production. I look forward to the event every year.

Topic: BDFC
From: Geoff Perks
Date: 2010-01-25

In case anyone was wondering.........It was DUCKS by the way!

Topic: BDFC
From: Geoff Perks
Date: 2010-01-23

Could it mean BIG D**KS FOR CHICKS?

Topic: Meaning of BDFC
From: Renzo
Date: 2010-01-22

BDFC=Bob Dylan Fan Club.

Topic: BOTSC/BSL
From: Les Bell
Date: 2010-01-22

To anyone who checks out the BSL web site, and to Peter's point about creative names, there is a women's team in there with the name BDFC. I am not disclosing, but I wonder if anyone knows what BDFC stands for because when creativity is considered, this name is up near the very top of the list.

Topic: Club not League
From: Peter Barrett
Date: 2010-01-22

Les, just to clarify my statement regarding BSL players adjusting. This was in reference to the BOTSC being called a League, think Golf League, Sailing League. When Wally Cooper and the rest of the guys were setting up the club they wanted to emphasis that we were a Club with social activities equal to on-field activities, this is why there is a draft and no points or standings. As I said it’s just a pet peeve of mine, (We all have them) sort of like when the Scots lads get asked what part of England they come from. With the growth of the club and increase in pub sponsors the social side has sadly diminished, gone are the days when everybody would cheer and jeer at Brock then go back to the Plough. The BOTSC has always welcomed players from the BSL and, apart from the odd ego now and then, I cannot recall experiencing any bad practices from the new players (Except for dodgy coloured boots maybe!) The BSL has been our main feeder club from day one (I was a BSL graduate/drop out). Former great BSL’ers like David Cooper, Derrick Simmons and the Baker brothers never had an issue playing alongside ageing “C” players and thankfully that still continues, like you mentioned the list is long. Be nice to hear what others have to say regarding this topic – your thoughts gentlemen. PS. Had a look at the impressive BSL web site but didn’t see mention of it being a club. Some team names are very imaginative - “The Stunners” a team of police officers? “The Shockers” electricians?

Topic: Special Meeting Jan 17
From: les bell
Date: 2010-01-21

When can the membership expect to see minutes from this meeting? As I recall, there was some 'debate' before the AGM that precipitated the meeting being called and I would like to know if the loop was closed on the subject.

Topic: General
From: Les Bell
Date: 2010-01-15

Re Peter's note below...not sure what you mean about people having trouble adjusting from the BSL when they get to BOTSC. We have plenty of BSL graduates in the BOTSC (Geoff Perks, Atipol, Ringo, Lewis Webster...it's a pretty long list), and I have not noticed a difference in their approach to either their teammates or opponents when it comes to Sunday morning football. The reason I ask is because I am still actively involved in the BSL (on the Executive Committee) and if there is some thought in the BOTSC that we are breeding bad practices on the other side of the fence then some specifics, provided by the BOTSC Executive, would help me get concerns on the table. BSL, by the way Peter, is a CLUB not a league.

Topic: Roy Tomaney
From: Brian McLaughlin
Date: 2010-01-14

I was talking with Roy this morning and he's feeling much better. He has been under sedation for much of the last two months, but, he's been moved from ICU to a ward and says he's feeling much better. The BOTSC wishes both Roy & Ted a quick recovery.

Topic: General
From: Peter Barrett
Date: 2010-01-12

Great news about Ted, thanks for the update Jimmy. Anybody have news about Roy? The banter regarding number of teams/lack of volunteers/playing fields should lead to some lively debate at the EGM, assuming they’re on the agenda. Just a couple of other points. One, thanks to John Davies for the work he did on the previous web site, excellent job John. And, two, guys we are a Club NOT a League. Seems the guys from our feeder club/league, the BSL, have trouble adjusting (Sorry pet peeve of mine). Norm, I expect you will be flying in for the EGM next Sunday?

Topic: Ted and Roy
From: Jim Holland
Date: 2010-01-11

I saw Ted last year in hospital and called his home last December to find out how he was doing. Physically he is very good but speaking is a problem for him at the moment. He has written to all members of his last team only today and seems in good spirits. His wife expects to have him playing again soon and has told the physiotherapist what her expectations are. I believe we will see Ted playing again soon

Topic: Ted & Roy
From: G. Perks
Date: 2010-01-11

Does anyone know how Ted Haines & Roy Tomaney are doing?

Topic: Ted & Roy
From: Geoff Perks
Date: 2010-01-11

Does anyone know how Ted Haines and Roy Tomaney are doing?

Topic: Boxing Day Kickabout
From: Shane Scott
Date: 2009-12-31

I saw the pictures of the game..looked like fun.Can anyone play in it...I'd like to next year but didn't know anything about it this year(I was a new member this year)Happy New Year to everyone!

Topic: The Waiting List
From: Les Bell
Date: 2009-12-14

When will we be publishing the waiting list on the web site so the general membership can see it? I have asked many times to see the waiting list, particularly after 'sponsoring' a potential member, but have yet to see it published anywhere.

Name: Gord Bradley
Topic: Const. change Motion 5
Date: December 09, 2009
Time: 10:16: AM

Comments

Motion 5 - submitted By Chris Lynch (also submitted by Ian Muffet) g) Slide tackles are prohibited and will be penalized by a direct free kick. Other action (cards) is at the discretion of the Referee. Been out of refereeing a while but don;t we normally award an "in-direct" free kick for a slide tackle unless the tackle itself warrants a free kick?

Name: Marino C.
Topic: AGM
Date: December 08, 2009
Time: 09:10: AM

Comments

Minutes are now available under Club Meetings

Name: Les Bell
Topic: AGM
Date: December 07, 2009
Time: 12:24: PM

Comments

Have minutes been produced yet? I could not make the AGM and have heard lots of recaps but I would like to see the official record. Les